garage packages

[cheeky]

If there was a 'Like' button, you would get one.

Agreed!

[Anapeg]

Things have a way of changing and they do with some regularity BUT, when I drove tractor trailer, hauling "B" trains with 42000 ft of boards out of Canadian mills to our north we dropped part loads all over Hells half acre, Canadian and American. There was no picking through for stamps, stickers or knot holes it went in an order of my choice. I have hauled trains into Wyoming Michigan, watched my load split between two American haulers then followed that damn lumber all the way back to Sault Mich. Where it is sold back to us for less than we can buy it for on our side. Now you can't tell me it is a stamp doing that.

I do not mind you pulling the wool over my eyes but when you try pulling the whole sheep over my face I begin to wonder.

[MagicFingers]

Things have a way of changing and they do with some regularity BUT, when I drove tractor trailer, hauling "B" trains with 42000 ft of boards out of Canadian mills to our north we dropped part loads all over Hells half acre, Canadian and American. There was no picking through for stamps, stickers or knot holes it went in an order of my choice. I have hauled trains into Wyoming Michigan, watched my load split between two American haulers then followed that damn lumber all the way back to Sault Mich. Where it is sold back to us for less than we can buy it for on our side. Now you can't tell me it is a stamp doing that.

I do not mind you pulling the wool over my eyes but when you try pulling the whole sheep over my face I begin to wonder.

Wish there was a like on this quote.....I have seen it and know people who do long haul and have stated the same thing. They load in canada drop part load...what happens is that they go to their first location and that location usually picked what they wanted. and then they would move on to the next which could be on the american side and it is the same lumber and that location would take what they wanted and the truck would move on. All the same lumber.

[MagicFingers]

And yes you can get csa approved products in the states just so we are clear.

[Magneto]

And yes you can get csa approved products in the states just so we are clear.

Yes you can. As far as garage packages are concerned, most aren't CSA in the USA and we can't get building permits to put them up over here without paying out extra money to have them inspected and stamped. I'm not trying to turn anything into a pissing match with anyone. I'm simply sharing what I know... and if you have a problem with that, or don't like it -- you can always ignore me. I'm simply answering to the original OP's question about pre-fab garage kits from the USA. I'm not specifically talking about buying CSA approved timber from the USA. I don't really care if you need a permit or not.. because the OP does if he's putting up a garage in town. It wasn't specified if he lived in or out of town, so I'm giving in-town information. MagicFingers if you really dislike my posting in threads.. because you feel that I'm a know it all... well that's your problem and not mine. I was speaking in the strictest sense of a CSA is not the same as just having Canadian made wood in a pre-fab structure.... and staying to the OP's pre-fab garage scenario. AND that a phone call to clarify things is cheaper than buying something you can't use. That's all the "feel free to call a building inspector" means. If someone was serious about building a structure that requires a permit ... they'd have made plenty of calls before spending a penny on any building material. Let alone asking about shipping from another country to members here on Soonet about what Menard charges. Obviously a very loose feeler thread about a potential garage.... I'd call Menards before I'd ask someone here about shipping a 24x24 pre-fab to Canada. They ship stuff here all the time. It's standard fare... buyer pays bridge tolls, duty, and shipping costs -- meets the truck at the boarder to pay the fees and go through all the paper work and escorts it back to Canada.

If I'm really killing the forums and making you not want to post any more... well again.. your issue not mine. Don't like me.. ignore me... avoid me.. I really don't care. Stayed on topic for the OP. Notice.. from my first post.. I said pre-fab and CSA.... on topic. Nobody cares that you noticed that you can buy BC lumber at Menard's. I corrected you on those specific grounds... pre-fab and CSA.... I'm quite sure the OP doesn't really care what you notice about 2x4s.. or the deck your family member built. I don't either. Regardless, of that.. you steered it off topic.. I steered it back onto topic, and it is now a "pissing match".. that you started. Why? Because you're under the assumption that people care you noticed Canadian wood at Menards.... or the deck your family member built... <sarcasm> yeah.. really insightful and helpful information about pre-fabs there.. thanks for posting it! </sarcasm>

And if I'm coming off and appearing as the plague to the soonet boards... and it is preventing idle banter from taking over some topics.. That's fine too! I could really care about hurting anyone's soonet ego. Or messing up their Chi... or whatever I'm disrupting over there for you. If there is a problem with me that the admins/mods have -- they can deal with me as they see fit. I'm not worried about that either.


Now back to the OP's issues with a pre-fab: As far as the OP's concerns... in town, as far as requiring building permits for a garage -- prefabs from the States are a bad idea. The real meat of the problem is simply that pre-fabs from Menards won't even get a building permit in Canada. If its in an unorganized township.. and doesn't require a building permit -- the OP can do himself a favour and simply call Menards for a free quote -- shipping charges included.

Kits that use roof rafters will not pass unless stamped by an engineer on the Canadian side (at the builder/owner's cost). Canadian code prefers trusses instead of rafters in our area because of snow load concerns. You can build a garage with rafters in Canada, but not by using a majority of the US prefab kits. There's also particulars concerning shingles, insulation and siding not meeting Canadian fire code standards. When all said and done, you buy a typical US kit -- pay the duty fees... throw away the roof rafters, siding, and shingles... and you got some plywood, 2x4s and some screws and bolts to start your garage build. Seriously, it may sound like I'm joking... but call the Building Permit office and just mention that you want to use a "prefab garage from the states" and they'll be happy to fill you in with all the details about why you can't do it. You can also try calling a Menards and mention that you're Canadian and interested in a garage kit. The more knowledgable workers there will be polite and inform you that you'll have a difficult time using a prefab kit in Canada.


MagicFingers if you're simply replying in response to me... please don't. You aren't contributing anything of worth to this thread... and you're wasting your time trying to convince me to care in the slightest about your hurt feelings. I'm simply offering the OP advice the advice isn't for you.

[cheeky]

MF he is right, 100% about all issues regarding garage packages. There is no argument or debate to be had with regards to the original post.