Interesting study on children of GLBT parents

[Bluesky]

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-st...vious-research

[Westender 3]

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The Family Research Council (FRC) bills itself as “the leading voice for the family in our nation’s halls of power,” but its real specialty is defaming gays and lesbians. The FRC often makes false claims about the LGBT community based on discredited research and junk science. The intention is to denigrate LGBT people in its battles against same-sex marriage, hate crimes laws, anti-bullying programs and the repeal of the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy.


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...search-council

[Westender 3]

But other scientists say the research is deeply flawed, and does not measure the effect of same-sex parenting at all. The study defined same-sex parenting by asking participants if their parents had ever had same-sex relationships, and whether they had lived with the parent at that time. That led to a "hodgepodge" group of people who Regnerus then compared with kids in stable, married homes, said Judith Stacey, a sociologist at New York University who was not involved in the research.

"He doesn't have an actual category of gay parents in the project that you can isolate and say the most important thing in this kid's childhood is that they were raised by gay parents," Stacey told LiveScience. "These are kids whose parents, maybe they divorced, maybe they separated, maybe they had a scandalous affair, we just don't know." [5 Myths About Gay People]

In contrast, a fair comparison would have matched up children of same-sex parents with children of heterosexual parents who looked otherwise similar — no extra divorces, no extra separations, no extra time in foster care for the kids, said Gary Gates, a researcher at the Williams Institute, a sexual orientation policy think tank at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Instead, Regnerus categorized all people who said their parents were once in a same-sex relationship in the same group, even if those people had also experienced major childhood upheavals. About half of the people whose parents had ever been in gay or lesbian relationships also said their parents had once been in a heterosexual marriage, suggesting that a great many of these children were the products of a heterosexual relationship in which one parent later came out as gay or bisexual. Fifty-eight percent of those raised by moms who'd indicated a lesbian experience said their mother once left the household during their youth, and 14 percent said they'd spent time in foster care.

"All he found is that family instability is bad for children and that's hardly groundbreaking or new," Gates, who was not involved in the research, told LiveScience.


http://news.discovery.com/human/same...dy-120612.html


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[Soundbear]

But other scientists say the research is deeply flawed, and does not measure the effect of same-sex parenting at all. The study defined same-sex parenting by asking participants if their parents had ever had same-sex relationships, and whether they had lived with the parent at that time. That led to a "hodgepodge" group of people who Regnerus then compared with kids in stable, married homes, said Judith Stacey, a sociologist at New York University who was not involved in the research.

"He doesn't have an actual category of gay parents in the project that you can isolate and say the most important thing in this kid's childhood is that they were raised by gay parents," Stacey told LiveScience. "These are kids whose parents, maybe they divorced, maybe they separated, maybe they had a scandalous affair, we just don't know." [5 Myths About Gay People]

In contrast, a fair comparison would have matched up children of same-sex parents with children of heterosexual parents who looked otherwise similar — no extra divorces, no extra separations, no extra time in foster care for the kids, said Gary Gates, a researcher at the Williams Institute, a sexual orientation policy think tank at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Instead, Regnerus categorized all people who said their parents were once in a same-sex relationship in the same group, even if those people had also experienced major childhood upheavals. About half of the people whose parents had ever been in gay or lesbian relationships also said their parents had once been in a heterosexual marriage, suggesting that a great many of these children were the products of a heterosexual relationship in which one parent later came out as gay or bisexual. Fifty-eight percent of those raised by moms who'd indicated a lesbian experience said their mother once left the household during their youth, and 14 percent said they'd spent time in foster care.

"All he found is that family instability is bad for children and that's hardly groundbreaking or new," Gates, who was not involved in the research, told LiveScience.


http://news.discovery.com/human/same...dy-120612.html


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State your case. Hold the attacks.

FYI, surveys with dumb mistakes by Christians tick me off just as much as you.

[Westender 3]

Hold the attacks.

Then delete the whole thread for the attack on gay parenting, because that's all it is. A bigoted underhand attack.

[Soundbear]

Hold the attacks.

Then delete the whole thread for the attack on gay parenting, because that's all it is. A bigoted underhand attack.

In your opinion.

Seems you're afraid to discuss it. I've always been of the opinion that a child raised by only one parent (or one gender) cannot fully experience the interaction between a man and a woman in a married relationship. They will therfore be lacking in some areas.

Flawed surveys are not right. Refusing to discuss the issue is worse.

[Westender 3]

In your opinion.

Seems you're afraid to discuss it. I've always been of the opinion that a child raised by only one parent (or one gender) cannot fully experience the interaction between a man and a woman in a married relationship. They will therfore be lacking in some areas.

Flawed surveys are not right. Refusing to discuss the issue is worse.

What's to discuss? The study is bunk pushed by a known hate group.

[Soundbear]

What's to discuss? The study is bunk pushed by a known hate group.

A hate group in your opinion.

Not discussing an issue on that basis seems like a cop-out to me.

[Westender 3]

A hate group in your opinion.

Not discussing an issue on that basis seems like a cop-out to me.

What's to discuss. The thread starter threw some crap hoping it would stick. It didn't, and he hasn't responded in three days.In the real world this is called trolling, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling. Why start a discussion and bolt the scene? Seems kind of cowardly,(wonder what the excuse will be)

[Bluesky]

The thread starter threw no crap. He posted a link and made no comment. You are the one who has been throwing crap ever since. Can't a guy post a link to an item of interest?

Since when is posting a link and not commenting against the rules at Soonet? Westender, you need to keep your emotions in check. Back off and cool your booties. Take a few deep breaths. Relax. Your world is not caving in. Yet.

[stupefied]

I've always been of the opinion that a child raised by only one parent (or one gender) cannot fully experience the interaction between a man and a woman in a married relationship. They will therfore be lacking in some areas.

Since it seems to be accepted that being gay is not a choice is it fair to say that those who are born gay and raised by a heterosexual couple are lacking due to not being able to experience the interactions between a same sex couple in a relationship?

[Westender 3]

The thread starter threw no crap. He posted a link and made no comment. You are the one who has been throwing crap ever since. Can't a guy post a link to an item of interest?

Since when is posting a link and not commenting against the rules at Soonet? Westender, you need to keep your emotions in check. Back off and cool your booties. Take a few deep breaths. Relax. Your world is not caving in. Yet.

Keep your ........to yourself and problem solved. This isn't your little personal corner of the internet, though you seem to think it is.

[Soundbear]

Since it seems to be accepted that being gay is not a choice is it fair to say that those who are born gay and raised by a heterosexual couple are lacking due to not being able to experience the interactions between a same sex couple in a relationship?

It's not accepted.

[Soundbear]

Keep your hateful, condescending crap to yourself and problem solved. This isn't your little personal corner of the internet, though you seem to think it is.

Afraid to discuss the issue.

[stupefied]

It's not accepted.

ah OK.

So anyway, what do you think the big difference is with interactions between a heterosexual couple as opposed to a same sex couple? Sure, things may look a bit different in the bedroom but the kids aren't witnessing that. I can only guess but I would imagine the interactions between couples are basically the same.

[Anapeg]

Blue posted an article which he may or may not subscribe to =so as to illicit an open exchange of views. All I have seen so far is one individual who disbelieves freedom of speech is only for some.We can all say what we want, it is up to the listener to make up their own mind as to the validity.

[Soundbear]

ah OK.

So anyway, what do you think the big difference is with interactions between a heterosexual couple as opposed to a same sex couple? Sure, things may look a bit different in the bedroom but the kids aren't witnessing that. I can only guess but I would imagine the interactions between couples are basically the same.

Only if you believe that men and women react the same in all situations. There is no way I believe that.

[lynys]

It's not accepted.

It's not?

That's news to me.

[stupefied]

Only if you believe that men and women react the same in all situations. There is no way I believe that.

So you believe that all men react the same in every situation and that all women do also. There is a 'man reaction' and a 'woman' reaction? Do you think a women who gets widowed and has young kids shouldn't be able to move back home with her single mother for the same reasons?

[Soundbear]

So you believe that all men react the same in every situation and that all women do also. There is a 'man reaction' and a 'woman' reaction? Do you think a women who gets widowed and has young kids shouldn't be able to move back home with her single mother for the same reasons?

What, ya think I wanna pass a law??

I am saying that living with just one gender can have a negative effect on children.