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    Default Holy Crusades Political War or Not?

    Were the crusades based on politics or religion?
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    Default Re: Holy Crusades Political War or Not?

    I thought it was a little of column A and a little of column B. Werent there 14 or so different crusades? Its sun morn and I have no motivation for a history lesson lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice View Post
    Were the crusades based on politics or religion?
    Politics with the blessing of religion.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice View Post
    Were the crusades based on politics or religion?
    Economics
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    True, that too.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    How many Popes should have been Tried as War Criminals?
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    Let us know.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice View Post
    How many Popes should have been Tried as War Criminals?
    I'd say zero. They live in their own country and could block extradition.
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    It says "should", not could.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    It says "should", not could.
    Huh?
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    She said "should" be tried. Not could.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    She said "should" be tried. Not could.
    She didn't say anything he did.

    I find it funny when you and both know exactly who I am sister.

    It really doesn't bother me though you have no power over me in the real world.
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    My apologies for the gender mixup.

    Love to know what visits you refer to this time.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    My apologies for the gender mixup.
    Considering it is not the first time I have to question the sincerity of your apology.
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    Ain't bothering me!!

    As if keyboard heroes are sincere!!
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundbear View Post
    Ain't bothering me!!

    As if keyboard heroes are sincere!!
    Indeed.
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    Default Re: Holy Crusades Political War or Not?

    Be they political, economical whatever they where in point of fact refered to as,...........you guessed it the Holy Wars. Who manned and funded the Crusades?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapeg View Post
    Be they political, economical whatever they where in point of fact refered to as,...........you guessed it the Holy Wars. Who manned and funded the Crusades?
    Both church and state.
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    At that time in history church and state being much closer.
    ''Our culture has accepted two huge lies: The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapeg View Post
    Be they political, economical whatever they where in point of fact refered to as,...........you guessed it the Holy Wars. Who manned and funded the Crusades?
    The state provided the means to carry out the church's wishes...a marriage made in hell.
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