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    Age is just a number. The newest candidate for mayor is twenty one years old, and I don't think that his age disqualifies him to be a candidate. In fact, I believe that Saultites would be willing to elect someone still in high school if he or she knew their stuff. It's about what you know. It's about what your solutions to the problems our city faces are. If you know things and have good solutions to the problems, then that's what we need.

    That being said, I'm still waiting for a better candidate. None of the three have excited me. The newest candidate, according to the Sault Star, wasn't even born in the Sault. That should matter. I believe that if you want to sit anywhere in those Council chambers, yet alone the Mayor's chair, you have to have been a Sault resident for life. You need to have seen our once booming city shrink into a city where young people are leaving by the thousands. Our steel plant had 10,000 workers. Now it's between 2,000-3,000 and there's a possibility that Essar will go bankrupt soon. Call centers have shut down. Businesses are leaving. Some new businesses are coming, but is that enough? No. We're losing jobs faster than we're gaining them.

    There used to be double-decker buses here, I do remember that. There used to be better transit service. They cut that down. The rates haven't went up yet, but you can bet your buttons that all three candidates won't be willing to promise low bus fare rates. Transit has always been a pet issue of mine. I run Sault Transit Reform, a Facebook page that is over one thousand people strong and growing. I am Mr. Transit Advocate in this city. And I believe that we need a mayor who will protect transit from further cuts. If one of the candidates is willing to pledge to not cut transit services, I'll go to Sault Transit Reform and to my website and I'll write one heck of an endorsement. Until then, I'm looking for another candidate to enter the race...

    The position of Mayor is a position that needs to be earned. People who run for office need to do it for the sake of the city, not their own benefit. The new candidate has already run for office in another election. So have other candidates. It does annoy me that some people are blinded by the power of the office, and they likely don't care about the good people of Sault Ste. Marie.

    Lastly, I believe that if you want to be the leader of our city, you have to understand the struggles of the lower class. The non-rich people. If you want to be mayor, you have to know what it feels like to be laid off from work, know what it feels like to have your electricity shut off, laying in bed with extra blankets because you can't afford to heat your home, know what it feels like to starve, know what it feels like to suffer. People want someone who understands their problems. Understand how it feels to struggle.

    Ward One councillors, they write silly little letters to the PUC about the brown water problem, that's the stupidest response to a crisis I have ever seen. People are grumbling. They want another candidate. The two councillors have contributed to this City, they have, and I respect their contributions, but if I was in their shoes, I would have walked into that new fancy building that we are paying for, and I would start banging my fists on the desks, demanding solutions, right now, at once, IMMEDIATELY! The residents of Copernicus (I used to live on that street) and Lorna and Taskar and all that area, they deserve better representation. Here's hoping someone else throws their name into the Ward One race as well.

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    This City is in a very sorry state politically, and I see nothing in the new candidates to suggest a real leader will emerge. But I remain hopeful.

    Mayor Amaroso is a stable, calming relief from the goofy reign of Rowswell, but I haven't see any real vision or leadership emerge from her tenure as Mayor.

    This City needs a real vision, a solid direction to go in, in order to pull us out of this decades-old tailspin we have been in. Relying on the steel plant, and fumbling our way through life hoping for government handouts is going to bite us real hard some day. Rowswell had this ridiculous notion of deep-sea ports, and cargo planes flying over the Arctic Circle, as a means of regenerating the Sault. It was a total waste of time, much like the truck route, and the cargo hub idea. This city will never be a center of distribution for commerce - it's simply asinine. Just take a look at how often our undivided highways shut down in a year, and you will get the picture.

    There are great ideas out there, things that could give us a new sense of identity, breathe some life back into the city, and encourage our young people to make this their home. But I don't see anyone making any moves in that direction. I see a blank horizon, with leaders caught in the headlights, just hoping things change. It doesn't look good, gazing at it today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    This City is in a very sorry state politically, and I see nothing in the new candidates to suggest a real leader will emerge. But I remain hopeful.

    Mayor Amaroso is a stable, calming relief from the goofy reign of Rowswell, but I haven't see any real vision or leadership emerge from her tenure as Mayor.

    This City needs a real vision, a solid direction to go in, in order to pull us out of this decades-old tailspin we have been in. Relying on the steel plant, and fumbling our way through life hoping for government handouts is going to bite us real hard some day. Rowswell had this ridiculous notion of deep-sea ports, and cargo planes flying over the Arctic Circle, as a means of regenerating the Sault. It was a total waste of time, much like the truck route, and the cargo hub idea. This city will never be a center of distribution for commerce - it's simply asinine. Just take a look at how often our undivided highways shut down in a year, and you will get the picture.

    There are great ideas out there, things that could give us a new sense of identity, breathe some life back into the city, and encourage our young people to make this their home. But I don't see anyone making any moves in that direction. I see a blank horizon, with leaders caught in the headlights, just hoping things change. It doesn't look good, gazing at it today.
    What this city needs most is someone with a vision of growth and the creative touch to interest investors outside our community. What it doesn't need is to be in conflict with those who are happy with the status quo. We'll be very lucky to achieve one of the two...
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    I've had the idea for several years that this city should be promoted as a good place for film-makers to come and make their movies. If City Hall rolled out the red carpet, actively promoted the idea, and paved the way for crews to film headache-free around the city, this could really make a huge difference in the local economy. And tourists would come back, to check out the film sets, catch glimpses of celebrity actors doing their thing.

    It wouldn't take a huge investment in infrastructure, just some City officials making their rounds at some film festivals, and handing out some information. A little advertising, some networking with studio officials, and we could be off to the races. A lot of different kinds of movies could be made here: urban, rural, historic, wildlife... there are lots of appealing options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    I've had the idea for several years that this city should be promoted as a good place for film-makers to come and make their movies. If City Hall rolled out the red carpet, actively promoted the idea, and paved the way for crews to film headache-free around the city, this could really make a huge difference in the local economy. And tourists would come back, to check out the film sets, catch glimpses of celebrity actors doing their thing.

    It wouldn't take a huge investment in infrastructure, just some City officials making their rounds at some film festivals, and handing out some information. A little advertising, some networking with studio officials, and we could be off to the races. A lot of different kinds of movies could be made here: urban, rural, historic, wildlife... there are lots of appealing options.
    What makes the Sault a better place for film makers than say Toronto? what is it that makes the Sault viable enough to make it worth people's time and money to fly an hour, or drive 8-10 hours to the middle of nowhere than say Toronto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    I've had the idea for several years that this city should be promoted as a good place for film-makers to come and make their movies. If City Hall rolled out the red carpet, actively promoted the idea, and paved the way for crews to film headache-free around the city, this could really make a huge difference in the local economy. And tourists would come back, to check out the film sets, catch glimpses of celebrity actors doing their thing.

    It wouldn't take a huge investment in infrastructure, just some City officials making their rounds at some film festivals, and handing out some information. A little advertising, some networking with studio officials, and we could be off to the races. A lot of different kinds of movies could be made here: urban, rural, historic, wildlife... there are lots of appealing options.
    Though it's a source of revenue, I can't see it being a consistent one. Industry and manufacturing would create more stable income for families and people wanting to remain here. Now how we attract that in such a competitive world.................??
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    When film-makers pick a location for a shoot, they encounter all kinds of problems and red-tape, trying to get permits, roping off areas, closing down streets and keeping their sets clear in order to shoot scenes. Further, some of the cities film-makers shoot in are ridiculously expensive with regard to hotels, food costs, etc..

    If this City deliberately rolled out the red carpet for these kinds of operations, and the people of the Sault rallied around film-makers so that they could make their movies here with few headaches, it would make for a much more efficient production, and save them big money. That's the draw that would cause them to choose the Sault for filming. Then, once films were being made here on a regular basis, it would draw tourists, which would create a secondary source of revenue.

    If you want hotels, restaurants, and shops in the Sault to thrive, this is the kind of traffic you want to see. Dollars that recirculate around the city from places like the steel plant aren't enough to spur real growth or prosperity. Outside dollars coming into the area is what causes outside investors to take interest.

    2 or 3 major film shoots a year in this area would generate millions in revenue for local businesses, and the tourist traffic that would eventually emerge could conceivably boost our local economy into a state of real prosperity.

    Offer young people a career in film-related work, or the tourism trade, or entice them with 40 years of sucking fumes in a factory. I know which one would be appealing to me, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    When film-makers pick a location for a shoot, they encounter all kinds of problems and red-tape, trying to get permits, roping off areas, closing down streets and keeping their sets clear in order to shoot scenes. Further, some of the cities film-makers shoot in are ridiculously expensive with regard to hotels, food costs, etc..

    If this City deliberately rolled out the red carpet for these kinds of operations, and the people of the Sault rallied around film-makers so that they could make their movies here with few headaches, it would make for a much more efficient production, and save them big money. That's the draw that would cause them to choose the Sault for filming. Then, once films were being made here on a regular basis, it would draw tourists, which would create a secondary source of revenue.

    If you want hotels, restaurants, and shops in the Sault to thrive, this is the kind of traffic you want to see. Dollars that recirculate around the city from places like the steel plant aren't enough to spur real growth or prosperity. Outside dollars coming into the area is what causes outside investors to take interest.

    2 or 3 major film shoots a year in this area would generate millions in revenue for local businesses, and the tourist traffic that would eventually emerge could conceivably boost our local economy into a state of real prosperity.

    Offer young people a career in film-related work, or the tourism trade, or entice them with 40 years of sucking fumes in a factory. I know which one would be appealing to me, at least.
    This city already rolls out the red carpet for film makers. My son was shooting a film her a while back and didn't have any red tape from the city's perspective. He didn't need location permits (and he asked), the city GAVE him the use of a cop car and a city cop for a shot, and the city CLOSED OFF two blocks of Queen Street for two hours (at no charge) so he could shoot a scene of traffic going east on Queen in the Spring/Brock area.

    The reason any films are shot in the Sault at all is because there are very few hoops to jump through. That would dry up pretty quick if they started treating film makers the way they do in Toronto etc.

    The film industry as a whole is quickly dying anyways. It has run the cycle of mega studios to independent films. Just look at the transformations at our Galaxy Cinema to see it is dying. The new wave is to make movies that go directly to the internet, and never release them through theaters.
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    Bill, to presume the film industry is dying because of the downgrade of the ssm theatre is a little silly. I think it is safe to say the downgrade of the ssm theatre has more to do with population than anything.
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    The North American movie industry generates billions of dollars in revenue every year. If we can find a way to get in front of just a small piece of that action, this city would get some new economic legs, and a renewed sense of identity - both things we are in desperate need of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    Bill, to presume the film industry is dying because of the downgrade of the ssm theatre is a little silly. I think it is safe to say the downgrade of the ssm theatre has more to do with population than anything.
    I "assume" the film industry is dying because my son tells me so. He has been in the industry for more than 10 years now, and he sees the writing on the wall. He sees movies created by friends end up being pirated with no revenue in site. He sees the quality of movies diminish, as backyard film makers try to make a quick buck with a $300.00 Sony Handy-cam and a $25.00 pawn shop microphone. He sees the quality of film decrease with the over-use of 3D and special effects in place of quality script and story line. It is a sad statement when the most profitable movie genre is the pornography market.

    The problem lies in the fact that people are no longer "entertained" by movies, and have moved on to the likes of reality TV and what they can see on their i-phones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Nash View Post
    I "assume" the film industry is dying because my son tells me so. He has been in the industry for more than 10 years now, and he sees the writing on the wall. He sees movies created by friends end up being pirated with no revenue in site. He sees the quality of movies diminish, as backyard film makers try to make a quick buck with a $300.00 Sony Handy-cam and a $25.00 pawn shop microphone. He sees the quality of film decrease with the over-use of 3D and special effects in place of quality script and story line. It is a sad statement when the most profitable movie genre is the pornography market.

    The problem lies in the fact that people are no longer "entertained" by movies, and have moved on to the likes of reality TV and what they can see on their i-phones.
    I cannot disagree with your other points. I was simply arguing the point you made in your prior comment.
    It is truly a shame, Hollywood is no longer taking risks. Movies are the same boring crap recycled with the same special effects and different characters. And I would suggest that has a lot to do with why less people pay for movies and are more likely to d/l them. Why pay for a movie you have already seen 14 times?
    That's my beef with the movie industry... off topic though it is

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    I doubt the city would remain as hospitable after others start coming to the city for making movies, The people will recognize a cash cow when they see one So I could see that as a short term benefit Sock, What about a long term benefit? The Sault is far less scenic than Toronto and there is far less space.
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    That's because it's a small town.
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    Well, I didn't think I had to spell that out....
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