Global Warming

[Barry Morris]

Care to explain why 99.9999999% of the earth's history is inconsequential when talking about the global warming pattern?

"Recorded" being the operative word. On a planet billions of year old we have records going back how far?

So, here both of you have basically asked the same question. And here is an answer. Care to discuss it??

Millions of years ago, a LOT of the worlds finite supply of carbon was deposited in areas we now know as oil, shale, and natural gas fields.

Man is now releasing that into the atmosphere by the billions of tons.

The question is, when has that EVER happened before in all those years before records??

The answer: never.

Is man unbalancing the atmosphere in ways that have NEVER happened before?? YES!!!

[KDawg]

It's amazing to me how the largest source of heat in our solar system -- the sun, by some, is relegated to a footnote when discussing global warming.

Believe it or not, the sun runs through cycles of cooling and warming. Did I mention it's the largest source of heat in our solar system? Perhaps it affects warming and cooling on planet earth?

[Hans]

You don't receive as much heat from the sun as you would think.

[KDawg]

You don't receive as much heat from the sun as you would think.

What does that mean? The sun is still our largest source of heat, by many magnitudes.

[RWGR]

So, here both of you have basically asked the same question. And here is an answer. Care to discuss it??

Millions of years ago, a LOT of the worlds finite supply of carbon was deposited in areas we now know as oil, shale, and natural gas fields.

Man is now releasing that into the atmosphere by the billions of tons.

The question is, when has that EVER happened before in all those years before records??

The answer: never.

Is man unbalancing the atmosphere in ways that have NEVER happened before?? YES!!!

Then what accounts for the earth having warm and cold cycles in its history?

[Huggy85]

If global warming doesn't stop soon, we're all going to freeze to death!

[Huggy85]

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weathe...pdate/43239598

I find the first graph to be quite interesting. Seems that the highest coverage years come in pairs, followed by a dramatic drop in coverage the following year. I'm very curious to see what happens next winter.

[Barry Morris]

If global warming doesn't stop soon, we're all going to freeze to death!

You could move to Australia.

[Barry Morris]

Then what accounts for the earth having warm and cold cycles in its history?

All kinds of happenings.

For instance, the year without a summer, when a volcano put dust into the atmosphere. But that was a short change. And as we know, the actions of a volcano aren't a patch on what we are doing.

Now there have obviously been changes in the climate, from ice ages to evidences of tropical plants up snowy mountains.

But, like Anapeg, you have no direct reply to my contention - again!!

[Barry Morris]

What does that mean? The sun is still our largest source of heat, by many magnitudes.

And maybe that's at least part of the reason for long term climate changes.

[RWGR]

All kinds of happenings.

For instance, the year without a summer, when a volcano put dust into the atmosphere. But that was a short change. And as we know, the actions of a volcano aren't a patch on what we are doing.

Now there have obviously been changes in the climate, from ice ages to evidences of tropical plants up snowy mountains.

But, like Anapeg, you have no direct reply to my contention - again!!

Barry, you need to know the difference between a reply to your comment and a reply to your comment you'd like to see.

Again, notice who is trying to start a fire here.

[Barry Morris]

Barry, you need to know the difference between a reply to your comment and a reply to your comment you'd like to see.

Again, notice who is trying to start a fire here.

Hey, it's a question I have never seen an answer too. That's all.

[RWGR]

Hey, it's a question I have never seen an answer too. That's all.

Where? Maybe I missed it.

Heading off to lunch in a bit, but should have time to respond later this afternoon

[Barry Morris]

What does that mean? The sun is still our largest source of heat, by many magnitudes.

Of course it is.

Now what happens when we add to that??

[Anapeg]

Of course it is.

Now what happens when we add to that??

I am sure, in the recent past I have said/admitted man has made matters worse. In the same breath I asked for viable things to correct the problem. I also noted it was a waste of band width laying blame. Who and what has caused the problem is unimportant. Slowing, stopping, and or reversing the problem is what needs be discussed. This part of my many posts gets passed by, ignored as does the preceding message in my post.

[Barry Morris]

I am sure, in the recent past I have said/admitted man has made matters worse. In the same breath I asked for viable things to correct the problem. I also noted it was a waste of band width laying blame. Who and what has caused the problem is unimportant. Slowing, stopping, and or reversing the problem is what needs be discussed. This part of my many posts gets passed by, ignored as does the preceding message in my post.

I agree completely. But "Slowing, stopping, and or reversing the problem is what needs be discussed." won't happen if the merest possibility of climate change due to man's influence is ignored.

[KDawg]

Of course it is.

Now what happens when we add to that??

The same thing that happens when I take a leak into Lake Superior... technically I've raised the water level but it's so negligible it's not worth considering, let alone spending time, energy and money to do something about it.

[RWGR]

The same thing that happens when I take a leak into Lake Superior... technically I've raised the water level but it's so negligible it's not worth considering, let alone spending time, energy and money to do something about it.

I don't know about that.

I once held a pee from Marquette to the Brimley, drinking beer all the way. when I finally got a chance to relieve myself in the big lake I'm pretty sure scientists noticed a notable uptick in water levels.

[KDawg]

I don't know about that.

I once held a pee from Marquette to the Brimley, drinking beer all the way. when I finally got a chance to relieve myself in the big lake I'm pretty sure scientists noticed a notable uptick in water levels.

Congratulations RWGR for possessing the Cadillac of bladders.

[RWGR]

Congratulations RWGR for possessing the Cadillac of bladders.

{bows}