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    Something for some of you to ponder....

    I'm a Devout Atheist Here's What I Love About Religion

    I'll admit, I agree with most of it.
    One can be a true believer in anything: psychic ability, Christianity or, as Bertrand Russell classically suggested (with irony), in the fact there is a teapot orbiting the earth. I could believe any of those things with total conviction. But my conviction doesn't make them true. Indeed, it is something of an insult to the very truth I might hold dear to say that something is true just because I believe it is. ~Derren Brown

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    You reading this, Left Sock??
    Religion doesn't save you, change you. heal you or set you free. Jesus does.

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    It's a small comfort to know there are some atheists who do not agree with Hitchens et al in that he believed that religion had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
    The heart of the human problem is the problem of the human heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    You reading this, Left Sock??
    Sure did. There were four things listed in the article. Switch 'prayer' for 'meditation' in number two, and you don't need religion for any one of those things. You can have community, a sense of purpose, and holidays without having religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    Sure did. There were four things listed in the article. Switch 'prayer' for 'meditation' in number two, and you don't need religion for any one of those things. You can have community, a sense of purpose, and holidays without having religion.
    Far be it from me to argue with that.

    List for us atheist organizations that operate like that.

    PS meditation = navel gazing.
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    If meditation means navel gazing, at least it leaves you're contemplating something that actually exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    You reading this, Left Sock??
    Did you read the whole thing, Barry?

    "But prayer is not just about dialogue with higher beings; it's also dialogue with the self. Prayer promotes quiet reflection on anxieties, hopes, injustice, moral quandaries and gratitude. Undoubtedly one can turn their thoughts to these matters at any time of day, but prayer routinizes this process and makes it deliberate and important. In a way, it makes concentrated contemplation itself sacred.

    Prayer is a form of meditation, which is a word that many of those without faith are increasingly comfortable with and a practice that atheists should embrace as a matter of habit. The mental and physical health benefits of meditation are simply staggering. The reality is that the speed, stress and invasiveness of modern life is unmanageable without practices that instill resilience and calm in the mind."

    I guess a couple of you saw a picture of a church, and got all excited. Lesson learned!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    If meditation means navel gazing, at least it leaves you're contemplating something that actually exists.
    True.

    Where did it come from??
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    It's just an expression that refers to examining your core essence, your connection to the world.

    Your navel is the center of your physicality, your attachment to the one who gave birth to you, and the first place you received nourishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    It's just an expression that refers to examining your core essence, your connection to the world.

    Your navel is the center of your physicality, your attachment to the one who gave birth to you, and the first place you received nourishment.
    I sense another "splitting hares" moment coming up!!

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    Well for me it makes more sense than lining up to eat a little disc of bread and taking a sip of wine in a ritualistic representation of cannibalism!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    It's just an expression that refers to examining your core essence, your connection to the world.

    Your navel is the center of your physicality, your attachment to the one who gave birth to you, and the first place you received nourishment.
    Given the slightest opportunity to skip the essence of the question, as usual.
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    Well, I certainly wouldn't want to be accused of dodging reality, so here you go!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphaloskepsis
    http://www.gynob.com/contnavel.htm

    There, consider yourself enlightened!
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    As you can clearly see, my former answer was right on the money, so I wasn't 'skipping the essence' of anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Left Sock View Post
    As you can clearly see, my former answer was right on the money, so I wasn't 'skipping the essence' of anything.
    Gamer.
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    Troll.
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    That is the proper term for someone who name-calls and posts single words, isn't it?
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    There, I reported it. Now you can ban yourself!
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    Reported you back!! Nyaah nyaah!!
    Religion doesn't save you, change you. heal you or set you free. Jesus does.

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    Curious thought.

    Isn't devout close to devoted in meaning??

    Devoted to what??

    Why, nothing, of course!!!
    Religion doesn't save you, change you. heal you or set you free. Jesus does.

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