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    God always could.

    "Pope Francis says all priests can forgive women who've had abortions"

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/europe...ion/index.html


    And what the heck does this mean?? "In the United States, many priests already have that power,.."

    Cafeteria style, I guess.
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    But can they forgive the Doctor's performing the abortions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupefied View Post
    But can they forgive the Doctor's performing the abortions?
    God can forgive anything, except denying Him.
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    How do you know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupefied View Post
    How do you know that?
    I believe what the bible teaches about it.

    There is only one unforgivable sin, denying God, not submitting to Him. Even murderers can be forgiven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    I believe what the bible teaches about it.

    There is only one unforgivable sin, denying God, not submitting to Him. Even murderers can be forgiven.
    So there are levels of sin

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    God always could.

    "Pope Francis says all priests can forgive women who've had abortions"

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/europe...ion/index.html


    And what the heck does this mean?? "In the United States, many priests already have that power,.."

    Cafeteria style, I guess.
    There certainly is something cute about a Protestant claiming Catholicism is "cafeteria" Christianity.

    A priest forgives sins in the name of Jesus. See, the RCC can do that, seeing it's the only church that can trace it roots back to Jesus...plus, Jesus had this to say to the first Pope:

    "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

    Matthew 16:19


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    God can forgive anything, except denying Him.
    Actually, every sin is a denial of God.
    God forgave my sin of unbelief.

    Barry, your un-nuanced proclamations on this board will continue to confuse people and keep them away from the truth.

    Show me a reference that says God will not forgive the sin of unbelief or the sin of denying God.

    In fact, every single person who comes to God for forgiveness of sin through Jesus Christ MUST first be forgiven of their sin of unbelief.
    We were ALL once unbelievers.
    The heart of the human problem is the problem of the human heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesky View Post
    Barry, your un-nuanced proclamations on this board will continue to confuse people and keep them away from the truth.
    Amen to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chachinga View Post
    Amen to that.
    Nuanced means a 5000 page dissertation.

    Anyone who uses anyone's input as an excuse not to believe is not thinking. Or just wants to attack. God won't give you much credit for my errors of explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Nuanced means a 5000 page dissertation.

    Anyone who uses anyone's input as an excuse not to believe is not thinking. Or just wants to attack. God won't give you much credit for my errors of explanation.
    In my opinion people that don't believe are thinking.
    When you have no knowledge you have no argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice View Post
    In my opinion people that don't believe are thinking.
    Yup, they have greater faith than me, that something can come from nothing!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Yup, they have greater faith than me, that something can come from nothing!!!
    The old fall back eh?

    Truth is I don't know the answer, but I am smart enough and happy enough to except that.

    All you have is faith you can't PROVE any of your theories.
    When you have no knowledge you have no argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice View Post
    The old fall back eh?

    Truth is I don't know the answer, but I am smart enough and happy enough to except that.

    All you have is faith you can't PROVE any of your theories.
    Truth is, you don't want to know, and think you are more intelligent for it. Be happy, there are many believers in this world way smarter than either of us, who DO have faith in God. And who do see intelligent design in the universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Nuanced means a 5000 page dissertation.

    Anyone who uses anyone's input as an excuse not to believe is not thinking. Or just wants to attack. God won't give you much credit for my errors of explanation.
    What the hell are you talking about?
    WAIT, never mind trying to explain, it will make absolutely zero sense (as usual) anyway!

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    I would venture to say when Barry says God won't forgive a particular sin he is talking about this passage:


    "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"

    -Mark 3:28-29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chachinga View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?
    WAIT, never mind trying to explain, it will make absolutely zero sense (as usual) anyway!
    No problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Yup, they have greater faith than me, that something can come from nothing!!!
    Barry, he is so presumptuous.
    One can be a true believer in anything: psychic ability, Christianity or, as Bertrand Russell classically suggested (with irony), in the fact there is a teapot orbiting the earth. I could believe any of those things with total conviction. But my conviction doesn't make them true. Indeed, it is something of an insult to the very truth I might hold dear to say that something is true just because I believe it is. ~Derren Brown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilistic Heathen View Post
    Barry, he is so presumptuous.
    When something comes from nothing, call me.

    Till then I will presume its impossibility to be a logical assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    When something comes from nothing, call me.

    Till then I will presume its impossibility to be a logical assessment.
    I was talking about your assertion as to what people believe.
    One can be a true believer in anything: psychic ability, Christianity or, as Bertrand Russell classically suggested (with irony), in the fact there is a teapot orbiting the earth. I could believe any of those things with total conviction. But my conviction doesn't make them true. Indeed, it is something of an insult to the very truth I might hold dear to say that something is true just because I believe it is. ~Derren Brown

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