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    "The Nation article, “What’s Next for the LGBT Movement?”, quotes four high-profile LGBT activists who reveal that “gay marriage” was never their final goal."

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion...ica-as-reveale

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    The slope, it's slippery.

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    I don't see what's wrong with poly marriages.... yet, it seems unlikely you guys looked into the article being sited on this opinion piece....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    I don't see what's wrong with poly marriages.... yet, it seems unlikely you guys looked into the article being sited on this opinion piece....
    Thin edga of the wedge. Lets discuss some of the issues.

    “Dis-establish marriage.”
    Pass strong LGBT “non-discrimination” laws across the US.
    Ban all “religious liberty” laws.
    Demonize pro-family conservatives and silence all dissent.

    "Group marriages" "incestuous marriages", "marriages to minors".

    Are all these OK with you?? If not, why not??
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    That was fast.

    "Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

    Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits.

    “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

    In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    I don't see what's wrong with poly marriages.... yet, it seems unlikely you guys looked into the article being sited on this opinion piece....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Dis-establish marriage.
    Marriage is an out dated concept that has no real purpose in today's society, if your religion requires such a thing fine, but the integration of law into it ought to be dissolved.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Pass strong LGBT “non-discrimination” laws across the US.
    Do I really need to touch on this? Discrimination is bad, anti discrimination is good, ask God what he thinks on this matter...
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    Ban all “religious liberty” laws.
    Religious liberty is to far, believe what you want to believe, but the momment it has ANY impact on me no matter how slight, it has gone too far. Yes, your religion offends me, and so do many other religions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Demonize pro-family conservatives and silence all dissent.
    If this was even an accurate representation of the "gay agenda" (Which I doubt) I, personally have no love for these people that act like they are the victimized ones when they are, in fact, the majority.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    "Group marriages" "incestuous marriages", "marriages to minors".
    again, another warped perception of the "Gay agenda" but poly marriages are something I can get behind. Incestuous marriages just have an "ick" factor associated with it due to the nature of genealogy, our society once was quite okay with sex between relatives, and some states still allow this. as for marriage with minors, that is absolutely not on the alleged "gay agenda" and is simple twisted logic used by the religious groups to try and undermine what the GLBT have been fighting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWGR View Post
    "cited"
    I was on my cell phone I think, waddya want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    That was fast.

    "Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

    Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits.

    “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

    In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA."

    http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/that-w...-equal-rights/
    Pedophiles have it wrong.... One is a legal matter between consenting adults, the other is not...
    I mean extremists say all kinds of off base things, should I consider the Westborough baptist church as an example of Christianity just because they say they are?
    I mean, they use the same tactic to spread their message of hate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA."

    http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/that-w...-equal-rights/
    The DSM, by the way is intended to classify and categorize mental illnesses, not as a means to change laws or treat conditions....
    So proposing a new definition is not meaningful in any way except for the purpose of research and diagnosis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    Marriage is an out dated concept that has no real purpose in today's society, if your religion requires such a thing fine, but the integration of law into it ought to be dissolved...
    um, what? I'm sure I must be misinterpreting your post. Gays fought for the right to be included in the Marriage thing. A legally recognized civil union wasn't enough. Instead we had to redefine a word that had such a specific meaning to many and you now say that. To me that basically reads as, we didn't really care about being married, just legally recognized the same way, but it was just so much more satisfying to cause pain and anguish to many who held the institution of Marriage in such high regard.

    What am I missing?

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    A Civil union did not carry with it the same benefits and privileges as a marriage carried. ie being taxed (apparently is beneficial as a married couple) medical coverage hospital visitation etc... A "Civil union" was something that could be easily ignored, now that it is a marriage and now a legal matter things have changed.
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    Though personally, watching the pain and anguish brings me a certain level of pleasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancingqueen View Post
    Though personally, watching the pain and anguish brings me a certain level of pleasure.
    No surprise there. Though you are mistaken about the emotions.

    But, naturally, you didn't answer stupified's question.
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    Actually, I believe the question was answered.

    Now I will reword the question.

    DQ, why not fight for a civil union that did carry the same benefits vs. fight for Marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupefied View Post
    Actually, I believe the question was answered.

    Now I will reword the question.

    DQ, why not fight for a civil union that did carry the same benefits vs. fight for Marriage?
    Really bizarre, when you consider they'd rather abolish it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupefied View Post
    Actually, I believe the question was answered.

    Now I will reword the question.

    DQ, why not fight for a civil union that did carry the same benefits vs. fight for Marriage?
    Honestly, I don't know, I feel it would have been more inclusive and easier to do than to fight the religious right over this. The closest I can suggest is because Christian gay people do exist and believed marriage needed to be redefined to match with their beliefs.
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    Wasn't it just simply about equality? They wanted the same rights as heterosexual couples and marriage is the most symbolic way to show that. I know different people had different reasons but that was the overall theme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chronic Liar View Post
    Wasn't it just simply about equality? They wanted the same rights as heterosexual couples and marriage is the most symbolic way to show that. I know different people had different reasons but that was the overall theme.
    I have to wonder how many gays are actually taking advantage of this.

    You "married", DQ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    I have to wonder how many gays are actually taking advantage of this.

    You "married", DQ???
    I think the point is that he can if he wanted to.
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