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    I see you are still on your crusade against porn.
    If you look at history, you will notice crusades never worked.
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    Han's, you didn't learn that from history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Han's, you didn't learn that from history.
    If not history, then what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapeg View Post
    If not history, then what?
    His own bias.

    Certainly the word crusade is best known in the vernacular as describing the Crusades of centuries ago. But there is a broader definition:

    "any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea, cause, etc.:"

    I'm very sure Blue knows the problems in so many peoples lives caused by addiction to many things, including pornography. One might characterize his attitudes towards it as negative, but to call a single post a crusade is silly.

    And I guess Hans doesn't want to address the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    His own bias.

    Certainly the word crusade is best known in the vernacular as describing the Crusades of centuries ago. But there is a broader definition:

    "any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea, cause, etc.:"

    I'm very sure Blue knows the problems in so many peoples lives caused by addiction to many things, including pornography. One might characterize his attitudes towards it as negative, but to call a single post a crusade is silly.

    And I guess he doesn't want to address the issue.
    Perhaps your memory fails you, but this is one of many threads started by Blue on the topic of pornography. Now whether or not I would call it a crusade, is questionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riggs View Post
    Perhaps your memory fails you, but this is one of many threads started by Blue on the topic of pornography. Now whether or not I would call it a crusade, is questionable.
    Many would be every day, even every week. But it hasn't happened even every month.

    But back to the issue. Maybe those addicted just don't want to talk about it.

    I will note one thing. Lots of Christians want to talk about and condemn pornography. Very, very few will talk about sex, and IMO, there would be less problems with porn if they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    I see you are still on your crusade against porn.
    If you look at history, you will notice crusades never worked.
    We should learn from history, not studies.
    You will not shut me up unless you abuse your moderator powers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    His own bias.

    Certainly the word crusade is best known in the vernacular as describing the Crusades of centuries ago. But there is a broader definition:

    "any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea, cause, etc.:"

    I'm very sure Blue knows the problems in so many peoples lives caused by addiction to many things, including pornography. One might characterize his attitudes towards it as negative, but to call a single post a crusade is silly.

    And I guess Hans doesn't want to address the issue.
    I see your point. Now, how does one get branded "addicted to pornography"? Once a week, twice, thrice? Is pornography not a sort of release for some? Might it not be the one thing that stops some from violating another person? Interesting conversation for those adult enough to keep their personal prejudices at bay, no? My expertise starts and ends with magazines as a teen and some very mild stuff as a younger man so no help from this quarter.
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    **crickets** No takers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapeg View Post
    **crickets** No takers?
    Is it like any other addiction where one loses the ability to choose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by riggs View Post
    Is it like any other addiction where one loses the ability to choose?
    Am I simply naive or is anyone else unable to fathom the inability of skipping porn for a week or two? Heroin, understandable, cocaine, certainly but porn? This is not unlike not being able to skip Facebook, is it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapeg View Post
    Am I simply naive or is anyone else unable to fathom the inability of skipping porn for a week or two? Heroin, understandable, cocaine, certainly but porn? This is not unlike not being able to skip Facebook, is it not?
    I don't know about porn, but rest assured I do know people who risk being disciplined to check in on their FB at work. Is that considered an addiction? I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesky View Post
    You will not shut me up unless you abuse your moderator powers...
    I have no intention of shutting you up.
    All I want to do is point out you are wasting your time on that subject.
    Porn has been around as long as civilization has been around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    His own bias.

    Certainly the word crusade is best known in the vernacular as describing the Crusades of centuries ago. But there is a broader definition:

    "any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea, cause, etc.:"

    I'm very sure Blue knows the problems in so many peoples lives caused by addiction to many things, including pornography. One might characterize his attitudes towards it as negative, but to call a single post a crusade is silly.

    And I guess Hans doesn't want to address the issue.
    Address what issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    I have no intention of shutting you up.
    All I want to do is point out you are wasting your time on that subject.
    Porn has been around as long as civilization has been around.
    I am afraid you are trying to drain the sea with a bucket.
    Address what issue?
    Porn.

    As far as human sin is concerned, yes indeed, it will always be with us.

    But that doesn't mean we should quit trying to lift up that one needy soul from a life damaging obsession.
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    You lifting up one person could mean damaging the enjoyment of 1,000 others.
    Sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    You lifting up one person could mean damaging the enjoyment of 1,000 others.
    Sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
    You have got to be kidding me.

    That's like saying getting one alcoholic off the bottle will put the beer store out of business!!!

    And if you consider porn a need, brother!!!
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    Do you know how many people the porn industry employs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    Do you know how many people the porn industry employs?
    Lots.

    Do you know how many regret ever getting involved??
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