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    Whether you call it a carbon tax or cap and trade it means reducing our carbon footprint at the worker/consumer level. The impacts will be far reaching and I just wonder where you all stand on the subject.
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    XMAS NOW later fool

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    It is a cash grab, a form of taxation.
    I only agree with it when 100% of the revenue goes towards something that improves the environment. You know, when it would actually help the environment.

    The system of "green" companies selling their excess "good carbon points" to heavy polluting companies that need extra "good points" to lower their taxes on their "bad points total" is a prime example of how screwed this system is.
    It does nothing besides allow companies to sell points for profit, and purchase points to lower taxes.

    And at consumer level they slap stickers on equipment to prove the equipment is better for the environment, and charge you extra for it.

    For car manufacturers they force them into a constant battle for lower fuel economy and emissions, which means you end up paying more because they need to recover the costs of R&D.
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    It seems to me it will, if it catches on, put us on an equal footing with the Amish, Mennonite and their ilk. Anything made from manufactured goods will be penalised and with the drop in demand, we will see record unemployment. While I agree with the need to do something I am also pleased to be on the good side of retirement.
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    So d'ya think we will see a carbon tax on our wood stoves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesky View Post
    So d'ya think we will see a carbon tax on our wood stoves?
    Are you being facetious? It is sometimes difficult to discern with your dry sense of humour.
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    Well, wood burns best when dry.
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    We burn a Hell of a lot of wood at camp, how would that be monitored?
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    Camp monitors. Like game wardens, but than for camps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    Camp monitors. Like game wardens, but then for camps.
    You do have a warped sense of humour, don't you? I like that in a person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapeg View Post
    Are you being facetious? It is sometimes difficult to discern with your dry sense of humour.
    Not really. Kind of. I heard rumblings of wood stoves being prohibited some day soon..
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    That and natural gas in new homes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesky View Post
    Not really. Kind of. I heard rumblings of wood stoves being prohibited some day soon.
    We are far too rural a country for that to stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    That and natural gas in new homes.
    I have heard of this one though. So once they effectively shut down the energy industry and manufacture takes a tumble, what is going to be done with all the unemployed. Who houses, feeds and clothes them?
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    We just move to Mexico where we can work for 10 pesos an hour on the jobs we outsourced the past 20 years.
    It all makes sense once you think about it.
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    Idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    We just move to Mexico where we can work for 10 pesos an hour on the jobs we outsourced the past 20 years.
    It all makes sense once you think about it.
    May just have to as our economy fails.
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    It fails because of our own actions, not because of economic issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    It fails because of our own actions, not because of economic issues.
    Our actions? There are much larger forces in play than simply the voting public of Canada in this one Hans. Now should you have meant to say the government I would agree their machinations had as much or more to do with the economic demise as some of the outside influences?
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    We choose the government. If we picked the wrong choice that is our fault.
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