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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Thanks for making my point.

    No discussion.
    You are avoiding the potential discussion.Why?

    A simple yes or no answer would suffice at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Very aware of that verse.

    It's the kind of thing Trump would say to anyone who points out HIS deficiencies.
    And trying to change the subject to Trump is a ploy used by those who will not face their own deficiencies, wouldn't you say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristotle View Post
    You are avoiding the potential discussion.Why?

    A simple yes or no answer would suffice at this point.
    You answered a question with a question. Not very helpful.
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    How come you are not answering a simple question? It seems strange, seeing you earlier lamented others doing the same.

    You said all one has to do is believe in Jesus to be saved. Fine. Satan believes in Jesus, is he saved?

    Pretty simple question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristotle View Post
    How come you are not answering a simple question? It seems strange, seeing you earlier lamented others doing the same.

    You said all one has to do is believe in Jesus to be saved. Fine. Satan believes in Jesus, is he saved?

    Pretty simple question.
    I quoted the bible. You believe the bible, don't you. I wanted some discussion about what is required by this biblical quote. Don't YOU want to discuss that?? I imagine the answer to your question will come up eventually.
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    Okay, I'll take your constant avoidance as proof my question has you stuck.

    Moving on ...
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    Okay, I'll take your constant avoidance as proof my question has you stuck.

    Moving on ...
    Okay, I'll take your constant avoidance as proof my question has you stuck.

    Moving on ..
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    So, as I said, "The bible says,. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Believe what?? As much as a child or as much as a theologian?? Or where is the line drawn??"
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    Interesting you posed the question "believe what??"
    Finally starting to see the light Barry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristotle View Post
    How come you are not answering a simple question? It seems strange, seeing you earlier lamented others doing the same.

    You said all one has to do is believe in Jesus to be saved. Fine. Satan believes in Jesus, is he saved?

    Pretty simple question.
    Does it not say somewhere anyone is redeemable?
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    When I say you are an absolutist, I am referring to your strong belief in your own opinion. You come dangerously close to denying the biblical gospel. That is, that Jesus Christ died for the sins of mankind, and that we must believe in Him as our Saviour. Barney is absolutely right. A Christian is a follower of Christ.

    If a person is sincerely seeking as a Muslim, and becomes a more faithful Muslim as a result, I ask you again, is that person a Christian? Yes or no please.
    Let me ask again, taking away what YOU added to my statement and clarifying my meaning. "If a person is sincerely seeking God as a Muslim, is that person saved?" I believe yes. God knows the heart. If he trusts God just like a little child, are YOU absolutely sure he is lost???
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    I think I know two ways that fool men into thinking they are saved. One is belonging to the correct religious organization. The other is unquestioning acceptance of a set of theological beliefs.
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    Does it not say somewhere anyone is redeemable?
    Absolutely.
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    Interesting you posed the question "believe what??"
    Finally starting to see the light Barry?
    Not getting your point.
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    "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Believe what??

    Good question, believe what??
    I think you are starting to understand it Barry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Believe what??

    Good question, believe what??
    I think you are starting to understand it Barry.
    Nope. Sorry. have no idea what you are getting at.
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    No need to be modest about it Barry, I get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    I think I know two ways that fool men into thinking they are saved. One is belonging to the correct religious organization. The other is unquestioning acceptance of a set of theological beliefs.
    That would be true, but are there any people who believe they are saved simply because of what church they attend?

    Without question, one of the most diabolical theologies satan has ever given man is the idea of "once saved, always saved"

    What an incredibly dangerous and un-biblical teaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Morris View Post
    Okay, I'll take your constant avoidance as proof my question has you stuck.

    Moving on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapeg View Post
    Does it not say somewhere anyone is redeemable?
    Yes, anyone is redeemable.

    But that has nothing to do with "believe in Jesus and you are saved"

    Satan believes in Jesus, is he saved?
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