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    "Last week freedom took another hit. Hillary Rodham Clinton unveiled her new health care plan. Unlike her old health care plan, which took longer to read than most cancers take to kill you, this one’s instant and painless – just a spoonful of government sugar to help the medicine go down. From now on, everyone in America will have to have health insurance.
    ****ay!"

    "Er, hang on, where’s that in the Constitution? It’s perfectly fine to employ legions of the undocumented from Mexico, but if you employ a fit 26-year-old American with no health insurance either you or he or both of you will be breaking the law?

    That’s a major surrender of freedom from the citizen to the state. “So what?” says the caring crowd. “We’ve got to do something about those 40 million uninsured! Whoops, I mean 45 million uninsured. Maybe 50 by now.” This figure is always spoken of as if it’s a club you can join but never leave: The very first Uninsured-American was ol’ Bud who came back from the Spanish-American War and found he was uninsured and so was first on the list, and then Mabel put her back out doing the Black Bottom at a tea dance in 1926 and she became the second, and so on and so forth, until things really began to snowball under the Bush junta. And, by the time you read this, the number of uninsured may be up to 75 million.

    Nobody really knows how many “uninsured” there are: Two different Census Bureau surveys conducted in the same year identify the number of uninsured as A) 45 million or B) 19 million. The first figure is the one you hear about, the second figure apparently entered the Witness Protection Program. Of those 45 million “uninsured Americans,” the Census Bureau itself says over 9 million aren’t Americans at all, but foreign nationals. They have various health care back-ups: If you’re an uninsured Canadian in Detroit, and you get an expensive chronic disease, you can go over the border to Windsor, Ontario, and re-embrace the delights of socialized health care; if you’re an uninsured Uzbek, it might be more complicated. Of the remaining 36 million, a 2005 Actuarial Research analysis for the Department of Health and Human Services says that another 9 million did, in fact, have health coverage through Medicare."

    "Where are we now? 27 million? So who are they?"

    "Americans 18-34 account for 18 million of the army of the “uninsured.” Look, there’s a 22-year-old, and he doesn’t have health insurance! Oh, the horror and the shame! What an indictment of America!

    Well, he doesn’t have life insurance, either, or homeowner’s insurance. He lives a life blessedly free of the tedious bet-hedging paperwork of middle age. He’s 22, and he thinks he’s immortal – and any day now Hillary will propose garnishing his wages for her new affordable mandatory life-insurance plan.

    So, out of 45 million uninsured Americans, 9 million aren’t American, 9 million are insured, 18 million are young and healthy. And the rest of these poor helpless waifs trapped in Uninsured Hell waiting for Hillary to rescue them are, in fact, wealthier than the general population. According to the Census Bureau’s August 2006 report on “Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage,” 37 percent of those without health insurance – that’s 17 million people – come from households earning more than $50,000. Nineteen percent – 8.7 million people – of those downtrodden paupers crushed by the brutal inequities of capitalism come from households earning more than $75,000."

    "since the last round of coercive health reform – the proportion of the uninsured earning less than $25,000 has fallen by 20 percent, and the proportion earning more than 75 grand has increased by 155 percent."

    "[The U.S. is] a nation of free citizens exercising individual liberty to make responsible choices"

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    I think this will be an especially interesting article for Barry Morris, he who walks the line between obsession and delirium when the false catchphrase "45 million uninsured" comes up. And let's remember Barry is the one person who will quote Twain on statistics, where he says "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics".

    Somehow, however, Barry's constant reliance on the statistic of "45 million uninsured" magically does not fall under that category, a category he reflexively places only those statistics that may undermine his. How politically convenient.

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    Well, I guess this leaves us with only one choice. Back to the anecdotal competitions! Our stories are more heart wrenching than yours. i.e. I have a friend who.... (you finish the story).
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aydeloof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, I guess this leaves us with only one choice. Back to the anecdotal competitions! Our stories are more heart wrenching than yours. i.e. I have a friend who.... (you finish the story).
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    "...is American, and he had to sacrifice his grandmother over Mount St. Helens to the gods of injury and pain (he's Catholic) in order to pay for her hospital visit to UCLA Medical Center. Her brittle bones soon snapped like lifeless twigs on Autumn trees, as her flesh melted and took on grotesque shapes, like the amateur potter flailing away helplessly at the potter's wheel."

    (I did Barry's work for him)

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    You be proud that you have to pay for stitches, casts and other minor work.

    You be proud at the fact that you have to remortage your house to pay for medical bills if you get into an accident.

    You be proud of your $17 a week health insurance coverage.
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    Why do you bother T-pot ?
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T-pot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You be proud that you have to pay for stitches, casts and other minor work.

    You be proud at the fact that you have to remortage your house to pay for medical bills if you get into an accident.

    You be proud of your $17 a week health insurance coverage. </div></div>

    "you be" proud of the fact your taxes are some of the highest in the western world.

    "You be" proud one of your leading politicians needed to go to California for important surgery.

    "You be" proud you're about the only people left gullible enough to say you have "free health care", while at the same time having over 40% of your wages given to government.

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    This is me, and what I think of The USA




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    You can take your healthcare, and everything else and shove it up your [censored] frankly. Stay on your side of the border, because I sure as hell will be staying on mine. I don't want to go where it is dirty.

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    Id say Speedy and his wonderful american attitude have created the usual response.
    more than one way to skin a cat

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    My response is not regarding Speedy. I think he knows that. My response is towards America period.

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    Trust me, I wasn't thinking of Speedy when I burned that flag.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AHDoubleXL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is me, and what I think of The USA



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    Nice of you to have an American flag around the house (a nice reminder of who is the boss, doncha' know) [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

    I'd keep a Canadian flag in my house, but they are pretty hard to find. Canadians don't even have them, so it would be difficult to get one over here.

    But I'd still like to have one, as a reminder that as a U.S. citizen I should always remain cognizant of those in the world who have far less than I.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AHDoubleXL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can take your healthcare, and everything else and shove it up your [censored] frankly. Stay on your side of the border, because I sure as hell will be staying on mine. I don't want to go where it is dirty. </div></div>

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    Someone's getting very angry!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wavey.gif[/img]

    As far as "dirty" over here, you do have a point. Ever since you guys got caught dumping your waste into the St. Mary's River it has been pretty dirty over here, particularly Sugar Island.

    However, don't let that little inconvenient fact stop you from spewing forth the mantra on how environmentally-friendly and all you guys are.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AHDoubleXL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trust me, I wasn't thinking of Speedy when I burned that flag. </div></div>

    Oh yes you were!

    Once again, I get inside the heads of Soonet's weakest personalities , and they obsess, all day and all night...

    Speedy wins again!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/beerchug.gif[/img]

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AHDoubleXL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is me, and what I think of The USA



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    Love the studded belt. It's very Eighties.

    Was Duran Duran playing in the background?

    I hope the mullet was brushed nicely for the big pic!

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