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    Let’s look at ‘free health care’ in action:

    Me and my buddy Joe Canadian have purchased the same things over a few month period. The base price was the same (which we all know is not true, as the base price for many things in Canada is much higher than the U.S. But for argument’s sake, let’s say the base price is the exact same).

    Here’s what we bought (before taxes):

    Car...$35,000.00

    Clothes...$150.00

    Groceries...$210.00

    Hockey Equipment...$575.00

    Central AC for house...$2,000.00

    With Canada’s 15% tax rate, and the U.S.’s 6% rate, let’s look at final costs:

    TOTAL COST

    Car: (U.S.) $37,100 (Canada)$40,250
    Clothes: (U.S.) $159 (Canada) $172.50
    Groceries: (U.S.) $222.60 (Canada) $241.50
    Hockey Equipment: (U.S.) $609.50 (Canada) $661.25
    AC: (U.S.) $2,120 (Canada) $2,300

    Joe Canadian paid $3,414.15 MORE for those products than Speedy American.

    Now let’s figure in income tax rates.

    Let’s say both Joe Canadian and I make $65,000/year. The above products were bought in the second quarter of 2007. Joe Canadian and I both made $16,250.00 in this quarter. At a tax rate of 15%, I paid $2,437.50 in taxes (pro-ration comes out the same regardless of quarter or year). At a tax rate of 22%, Joe Canadian paid $3575.00 in taxes. Joe Canadian paid $1,137.50 MORE in taxes than Speedy American.

    Now for one quarter we have Joe Canadian paying a grand total of $4,551.65 more than Speedy American.

    Now, let’s look at that over a year’s time: Joe Canadian will pay $18,260.00 MORE than Speedy American in taxes in 2007.

    Speedy American pays $895.44 per year for what most everyone will agree is the best healthcare on earth (that’s why leaders from all over come to the U.S. for top-notch services and care). It is THE most comprehensive health package Americans can buy. There are cheaper ones.

    Joe Canadian pays $17,364.50 MORE for his “free healthcare” than I do.

    What was that P.T. Barnum once said about a ‘sucker being born every minute’? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

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    bumpitydoo!!

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    man ... you got it made over there
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    No doubt!!

    Or is it, "No dooooooot"?
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    Rethink your numbers. There is more Americans than Canadians, there for more Americans are paying taxes, there for causing for less taxes to be paid.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: T-pot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rethink your numbers. There is more Americans than Canadians, there for more Americans are paying taxes, there for causing for less taxes to be paid.

    Next. </div></div>

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    Gotta' go, boys...enjoy that "free" healthcare!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wavey.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif[/img]

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    Dude, again your information is flawed. Go back to school.

    I don't think I need to disclose what is wrong with what you said, it is so blatantly stupid.

    Have fun.

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    No problem, enjoy the Ozarks and your failing wars!

    BTW how is the Vietnam war, errr I mean the Iraq war doing?
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    The GST has been decreased by a percentage point. So the total tax is 14% not 15%. If you expect others to be accurate, then you damn better be accurate yourself yank.

    Not all the tax dollars are allocated for Health care. There are many other services which Canadians receive which are paid for by taxes.

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    BOOYA!

    AHDoubleXL is my new favourite member!
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    Canadians also do not pay taxes on most food items. So your estimates on trips to the grocery store is incorrect as well.

    Man Speedy, you are a spinster. You are obsessed with creating propaganda.

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    Well it is also a funny fact that he boasts about us only posting when he is around.

    We are still posting and he is gone.

    Another fun fact, more posts are generated when he is around simply because of the fact of his stupidity.
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AHDoubleXL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Man Speedy, you are a spinster. You are obsessed with creating propaganda. </div></div>

    I can almost hear the Star Spangled Banner when you say the word propaganda
    Fact always trumps opinion.

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    While the numbers are far from accurate the main point is, unfortunately, right on the money. Neither system is perfect but if given the choice I would pick the U.S. system.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rethink your numbers. There is more Americans than Canadians, there for more Americans are paying taxes, there for causing for less taxes to be paid.</div></div>
    I bet that sounded good before it hit the screen.

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    personally, I enjoy and feel secure in knowing that if something unfortunate happens to me that requires both emergency care and a stay in the hospital that I will walk away without a muti-thousand dollar bill, and that all canadian are equal in that feeling of security. I would hate to have to worry about what is and what isn't, covered by my insurance. A few years ago I had my appendix removed, and it didn't cost me anything, I wonder how many americans can say that? How many had to loose everything they had worked for just to survive.

    I have never heard the US health care refered to as the "best healthcare on earth," and I wouldn't consider it that, and would never want to live there with that being one of the main reasons why.
    I'm pretty sure france is considered the best on earth, or maybe it was england.

    I really don't mind the taxes, it's just money.

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    I wondeer if there's a relationship between the largest prison population in the free world and the lack of universal health care in the USA.
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