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    I have been giving some serious thought to having weightloss surgery. From what I have read the Minigastric bypass seems like the surgery with the most postives about it. However, I believe its no longer being performed in Michigan. My perference has been towards this one but I don't know that traveling to Vegas of Florida is practical. Can anyone share your thoughts with me? Does anyone who had the RNY regret it? Does anyone know in OHIP assists with any travel costs?

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    pm to you
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    I don't know if OHIP helps with travel costs, but I know my hubby just bought a round trip ticket to Las Vegas, and it was $180 with insurance. I think it was only $150 without it. Plus, the last time he went there, the hotel room was noly $17/night, and it wasn't a dive.
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    wow Jackie
    that is cheap. Where do you find information about this?
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    I booked my flight and hotel on travelocity.. stayed right on the strip and only paid $566 for 10 nights in vegas including my flight!! and you don't eat anything after the surgery so meal cost is low...

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    Sorry, I wasn't thinking...that's out of Detroit. He's driving down there and back. It was considerably more out of the Sault and northern Michigan.
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    i had the mgb in michigan a year and a half ago and i am thrilled with my new life. i researched the different surgeries and it was the one for me. but i do understand that it is hard to go so far, i was lucky it was so close at my time. personally, though, i would go to vegas for the mgb rather than the rny, but thats my opinion after the researching that i have done.

    no, ohip does not cover travel or accomodations, only the hospital fee for the surgery. we are so lucky as canadians to get that! the others who had their surgery at the same time took out loans for theirs.

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    Well, I know you can stay at Whiskey Pete's for $17/night! LOL Besides the name, hubby said it was a nice place. It's part of a casino I think, so they offer cheap rooms, hoping you'll spend your $$$ on the slot machines.
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    you can look into ODSP or OW for funding.. I managed to get about 900 from them..

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    for those who did the surgery in Vegas, did you have to go to one of those seminars first?

    For any MBGers.... did you have any difficulties find a psychologist to do an assessment? How much did that cost?

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    i see dr. tang so he did mine for me no problem.

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    I wish i had dr. tang..
    or any doc here would do.
    my papers have been sitting on doctors desk since june!!! I called again today hoping she will move her butt
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    No I didn't have to go to the seminar first.. and my family doc referred me to a psychologist and OHIP pays for that... so it didn't cost me a dime.. only 2.5 month wait to get in.

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    If you want an opinion from a MBGer, I have no regrets. So far I have lost 110 pounds and feel great. I would like to lose about another 20 to 30 pounds. If and when we have another support group meeting, you should come and see what awaits you.
    Why are you hiding behind a username?

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    I emailed kimH from the http://www.clos.net site yesterday and asked her to come here and give a presentation. I also suggested Dr. R should go to the clinic in Bay City MI for a period of a couple weeks once a year or more and do the surgury for those prepared and approved. I have not heard back but I thought it might be something they will consider. I will let you know when and if I hear from them [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
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    That certainly would be great if they were able to come to us or closer at least.

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    This is the response I recieved this morning..

    Hi Barb –



    Yes, I am still actively working for CLOS and I am the main focal point for OHIP covered patients. I can fax it to the site of your choice.



    No, unfortunately Dr.Rutledge’s practice in NV is so busy that he can’t shut down his practice for 2 weeks per month in order to travel here. He would have to stop surgeries for 7 days to be sure he’s available to anyone he did surgery on for the a week. Then do surgeries here and stay in MI for the 7 days. This would not make sense when he would love at least a full week of surgeries. I would love to come to the Sault to attend a meeting. If you organize something let me know and I will coordinate to be there. We will be in Toronto on November 18th, but this is quite a distance from the Sault. I would love to join your group just let me know the timing you’re interested in and the location. We have met groups in restaurants, church rooms of someone that had a meeting room they could use, etc.







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    Default Re: Weightloss surgery - RNY/MGB

    I know what MGB is but what is RNY? Anyone know what the minimum weight loss that OHIP will cover? I have heard some who pay their own costs who had 30-50 lbs to lose. a drastic way to lose a smaller amount of weight.(30 lbs)

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    RNY is a type of weighloss surgery similar to the MGB only a slightly different procedure, here is a website.

    http://www.homanmd.com/RouxENY_Gastric%20Bypass.htm

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    What is RNY? here is some info.

    Roux-Y Gastric bypass suregery changes the anatomy to help achieve a lower caloric intake. As a result of suregery the stomach will be smaller and the small intestine shorter. All of this is accomplished without removing any part of the gastrointestinal tract.

    First the stomach is divided int two seperate parts. The small part that is attached to the esophogus is the new stomach. This new stomach is only about the size of a shot glass, roughly 1 ounce in volume. The rest of the stomach remains in place and continues to make gastric juices that will aid in digestion. The small intestine is divided and the downstream end is connected to the new stomach and pass directly into the small intestine. In order to asist with digestion, the upstream small intestine is connected to the Roux limb to create a "Y" intersection, hence the name Roux-Y Gastric Bypass operation.

    The anatomic rearrangement allows for weight loss for two reasons. First, with a smaller stomach the pace of eating is slowed. All foods, including liquids must be taken slowly. Second, some of the calories ingested will not be absorbed because the small intestine in now shorter than it was before. However, it is important to remember that most calories will be absorbed.
    The new, tiny stomach must be treated like a funnel. It will hold less then 2 ounces of food at a time and so , like a funnel, time must pass (a few minutes) before it empties and can be refilled. This is done over and over until a meal is done. This means that it wil take much longer to eat a meal after surgery. Eating to fast causes the funnel to spill over. The result is vomitting. You will need to drink your liquids after and between-NOT with meals. Your sense of being "FULL" will be different than it is now. Your diet will consist of high protein, low fat and calorie foods. Although the new stomach will limit the foods you eat it will not chose the foods for you. Unfortunately, it will allow high calorie , junk foods etc to pass through. This will lead to insufficient weight loss and weight regain. Sweets and sugary foods will lead to "DUMPING SYNDROME" which is a combination of diarrhea, cramping, sweating and nausea.

    The Roux-Y Gastric Bypass surgery can lead to an average weight loss of 60=65% if excess body weight. That is equal to 130 pound weight loss in a person 200 pounds over weight. This loss can last for years following surgery. Success after surgery is defined as losing at least 50% of excess body weight and keeping it off year after year. By this definition surgery is successful in approximately 80% of patients. "THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF SURGERY IS COMBINED WITH A LIFESTYLE CHANGE, INCLUDING HEALTHY DIETING AND REGULAR EXCERCISE"

    "SURGERY IS ONLY A TOOL TO HELP YOU LOSE WEIGHT. IT ALONE WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU LOSE WEIGHT"

    WHAT ARE THE RISKS OF SURGERY

    1)Wound infection
    2)WOund hernia-a seperation of muscle under the skin which may require operative repair
    3)Abnormal heart rhythm
    4)Heart attack
    5)Bleeding
    6)Pneumonia
    7)Pulmonary Embolus-blood clots that may form in the leg veins can break off and travel to the heart and lungs
    8)Anastomotic leack-the connection between the stomach and the small intestine may leak. Is rare but would require surgicla repair
    9)Stricture-narrowing of the stomach/small intestine connection to the point that food can no longer pass through easily
    10)Ulcers
    11)Bowel Obstruction
    12)Anemia
    13)Hair thinning
    14)High risk pregnancy-All women should avoid pregnancy for the first 2 years following surgery since this is the time of most rapid weight loss. A pregnancy during this time could result in severe maternal malnutrition, fetal malnutrition, premature birth, underweight newborns or miscarriage
    15)Death-the overall mortality is < 1%, placing this operation on par with elective gallbladder removal or bowel surgery.

    RISKS OF BEING OBESE

    Overweight and obese individuals (BMI of 25 and above) are at increased risk for physical ailments such as

    1)High blood pressure, hypertension
    2)High blood cholesterol, dyslipidemia
    3)Type 2 (non-insulin dependent) diabetes
    4)Insulin resistance,
    5)glucose intolerance
    6)Hyperinsulinemia
    7)Coronary heart disease
    8)Angina pectoris
    9)Congestive heart failure
    10)Stroke
    11)Gallstones
    12)Cholescystitis and cholelithiasis
    13)Gout
    14)Osteoarthritis
    15)Obstructive sleep apnea and
    respiratory problems
    16)Some types of cancer (such as endometrial, breast, prostate, and colon)
    17)Complications of pregnancy
    18)Poor female reproductive health (such as menstrual irregularities, infertility, irregular ovulation)
    19)Bladder control problems (such as stress incontinence)
    20)Uric acid nephrolithiasis
    21)Psychological disorders (such as depression, eating disorders, distorted body image, and low self esteem)." (from cdc.gov)
    22)DEATH

    I have had the RNY procedure and it was the best decision for me. I do not regret it at all. I have had 0 complications. My personal opinion is that it is a far superior procedure and has had enough study to prove what works. I do believe the MGB is newer and has not had all the studies that the RNY has had. Anyways that is just my opinion, ultimately it has to be with what you are comfortable with.
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