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[Ultra54]

Intel Core Duo get a midlife makeover

[filthy]

The sweetest thing is that even overclocked, it can lower the multi and vcore when idle, saving power and wear and tear on the CPU.

[Maryms]

There will be more Intel Quads and AMD will be coming out with some Killer Quads.

Like mentioned now is not the time for Quads, Next year is the time and that is if Gaming see a big impact in performance not visual, but performance from a Quad-Core. The thing is developers may only be able to develop for 3 cores not 4.

I will be waiting to see which is better and when as it is pointless to go quad-core right now. Even though i can buy a quad-core setup right now. I am waiting till Q1/08 to see whats out then.

[Ultra54]

Go quad or go home.

[Maryms]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ultra54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Go quad or go home.</div></div>

I will be at home with my dual-core and still be whooping your butt in Crysis Multi-Player while you playing it with a Quad-Core. It will not benefit your game play techniques... [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

The game is on and i have it fully paid for and waiting for it to arrive.

We definatley guys need to get a Soonet Server running this game, maybe Shawn has some ideas that we can get this done.

I am serious guys we all should look (10 ppl or so) look into a T1 or T3 server in town and pay a little every month or so for its maintenance. Pay to play on it basically a membership of some kind or another.

[filthy]

Dude...Crysis is utilizing my Quad, and because of that I am getting a ton more frames than you. I know I have the 640MB, but I get more frames on very high than you on high which makes the difference between the cards nearly negated.

When I run the CPU benckmark....oooof. My Quad hammers your dual, so yes they are worth it now.

But....you may be right to say wait. Since new Intels are coming and the Phenom launching soon, might as well wait and see who performs how.

[Maryms]

Not really as the Crysis Demo was made to run on a single core processor only. Go read about it as i just did on the world wild net. i could not believe what i was reading. I closed the link before i could save it. I must find it again so i can post about it.

Now you CLAIM you get a TON more frames, how much more is your CLAIM 2-5 frames?

The 640MB card is nothing much more then the 320MB card... MEMORY does not make a big factor on the GPU card unless you have 1Gb of ram in your PC and or if the memory on the GPU card is faster.

Also what drivers are you running as they make a difference in frame rates right now in Crysis i get more then what i got before on other drivers from Nvidia.

[Maryms]

Here is one link so far talking about crysis demo only uses single core processor and others in the forum state otherwise of course.

Very Interesting read.

http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=242978

Quoted from forum:

"All you people saying all 4 cores are being used are not understanding this very well. 4 cores at ~25% can be handled on a Single core CPU. Go in game, CTRL/ALT/DELETE, go to processes, right click on Crysis.exe, set affinity to 1 CPU. That will make your CPU only use one core on Crysis, and the performance will be identical. That core will handle the whole program just as fast. This demo is not quad core optimized. It is not truly using 4 cores."


"The demo currently utilizes dual core CPU's fully, but does not utilize quad core."

[Maryms]

Another Link a guy is complaining it (crysis demo) is not liking his Quad-Core, uses only 1 core.

http://www.crysis-online.com/forum/i...4859;topicseen

[filthy]

Hahaha, I can see it using all 4 cores, in the console and task manager. As for RAM, ya it is a big deal you dum dum. Look on tweakguides.com and any true gamer knows you you need a lot of RAM and video RAM to make Crysis purr on VERY HIGH settings. Sorry your playing on high settings, or maybe medium, and you still can't get good frames, sucks to be you. Geez I should put up a webpage saying the sky is falling and you'd be running around screaming.

Oh and you can see my setup in my signature and I am running Crysis on 1440x900, everything on Very High and 16xQ AA and averaging 31 FPS. So if my card isn't much better than yours ( I know it is and you think whatever component you have at any given time is [censored] sliced bread) what's the difference? My Quad to your Dual....period.

[Maryms]

The console is crapola as the cores are not being used 100% and if you put it onto 1 core it is same performance. Try it out so many others have already and know it only runs on 1 core, the 4 cores = 1 core performance right now, even dual-core i bet it is not 100%.

I must try this out to see for myself.


Really as for RAM, eh?

Take a guy with a 256MB card and he has 2- 4GB in his system memory, tell me he won't be able to play Crysis NO issues as the game will pump into the system memory (they may have to play it at 1024x768 cause of the cards limitations). Same as a person who has a 320MB card with 2GB or ram, runs fine and similar results. Go call up ATI or Nvidia and ask their techies about RAM on a video card vs the system RAM. I am 100% willing to bet they will tell you the samething i just did, why cause they know what i know.

This is why 640MB card vs a 320MB in similar builds gets very similar performance. Why is that???? cause like i stated above more system memory the better and you won't need a 640MB PLUS card.

Even 2GB of ram like i have ...... runs flawlessly on any games and has similar FPS as those ppl with the 640MB cards.

LOL so maybe your getting a MAX of 10 frames more in certain periods of Crysis Like on the beach area..... LMAO.. cause of your quad....10 frames more is what your claiming is a TON more..... let me OC my dual core CPU to 3.0ghz and then we will see who has 10 more frames or my GPU OC'ed more and we will see who has more then 10 frames.

As a matter of fact another member here has a AM2 3.0ghz machine with a 640MB 8800 GTS and 2GB's of ram. I must get a hold of him to compare it against these QUAD CORE gamers too in Crysis.

Edit:

And i play it on 1600x1200 on HIGH SETTINGS 26-30 frames in windows XP.

Oh and maybe i only have a 320MB SC card and 2GB of ram and DUAL CORE, but man that is DAMN good compared to some other so called KICK arse builds.

Yes much higher resolution then your BUILD... oh so nice it looks and of course the higher the REZ the lower the FPS will be.

[Maryms]

Now back to an earlier post.

If Intel out performs AMD's Next gen Quads I will be getting an Intel over an AMD.

Now again it must also prove to me that it has a significant gaming performance improvement FPS, not just visual improvements.

Intel is using a new SSE which is SSE4 and this may help for sure with FPS, but AMD has something up thier sleeve as well.

[Killswitch]

Hmmm..... recommended system requirements for Crysis say you need a 640Mb video card. If you're running 320Mb I don't think it really matters how much system RAM you have, your CPU is going to be doing extra work to move data from the system RAM to your GPU. It might not make a huge difference but you will lose a few FPS. So 320Mb IMO isn't enough, especially at 1600x1200.

[Ultra54]

By all accounts Max is the only guy who can play Crysis at 1600 x 1200 with a 320mb card in the world.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Priced at an MSRP of $299, the GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB has been a very popular upgrade for enthusiasts who want to really crank up the eye candy and still get respectable performance. In newer titles though like World in Conflict and BioShock with 4xAA we’ve begun to see the limitations of the card’s 320MB frame buffer, particularly as you crank up the screen resolution. In these cases the card’s memory subsystem becomes a bottleneck – it just doesn’t have enough onboard memory to load everything and frame rates begin to become choppy as a result.
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[Maryms]

When will ppl wake up and read the internet fourms?

Like i stated several times and other ppl in the world they are using a 500mhz 320MB card in that review and several other reviews. I don't know why they aren't testing the GT's against the SC or X.X.X version cards, maybe cause there is not much of a difference like i and several others proven.

Mine is a Factory OC'ed version which it is a default speed of 576mhz/1350/1700, but is now OCed more by myself 650mhz/1450/1874.

I and many others who have these cards will be able to play Crysis at 1600x1200 NP's on High Settings and get around 24-30 frames max, but may need to OC them more in which 80% of the people who own these cards OC them more.

Looks nice and runs smooth.

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I don't really care what Crysis stated about their requirements as that is just what they have stated. They never stated what type of 640MB card a stock one or a factory OC'ed one. Also they don't take into account that if a person has a 2GB of system memory and a 320MB SC or a X.X.X version card or a person who has 4GB of memory. They need to limit the requirements somewhere.

They can only state what they think should be suitable.

If i had a 640Mb card in here there will be no difference in they way it plays now on my machine, except if that 640MB is a 500mhz version it will play Crappier.

So even a 576mhz 320MB SC GTS Vs a 600mhz version GT will be very close in FPS in Crysis, but of course i recommend the 320MB SC ppl to get 2GB of system memory.

This is my card:

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=eVGA

I paid less then that after a rebate.

[Ultra54]

Wow. This is what I might pick up for my sons system. I have a system configured for 320 bucks, 2 gig corsair, Gigabyte mobo and this cpu.

[Maryms]

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 Dual Core Processor LGA775 1.8GHZ 800FSB 1MB Retail In Stock $100.91

Yes we here new about the other intel chip before, but there is no guarrantee all will do 3.0ghz-3.2ghz.

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 Dual Core Processor LGA775 2.0GHZ 800FSB 1MB Retail Box In Stock $103.50

May as well get the 2.0ghz version and see what it can do.

[Ultra54]

I used to get a laugh out of what you used to claim your old Geforce MX card would do to. The exact same scenario ,only 6 years ago.At the time I owned a either at ti 4200 or a radion 9700 and you were saying you were able to easily play games my card chugged on...lol.

85 bucks

[Maryms]

Yes that MX played those games and did not Chug and you know that.

This 320MB OCed to what i have it at is NICE me no BS.


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For Pentium D...... i would stay away from it.

[Killswitch]

MadMax, SaneSam is getting 10FPS more then you on VERY HIGH settings compared to yours on HIGH. That's because he's running a 640Mb card and a quad core CPU. Plain and simple. Sure he's running a smaller resolution, but very high settings compared to high will rape the performance from any PC far more then the increase in resolution from 1440x900 to 1600x1200. You need more video ram for all the textures and filtering. Even games like FEAR need around 512Mb's of video RAM to run optimally. You can run with less but your CPU is then given the task of swapping info from system RAM to the GPU. You should know all this. The CPU has enough to look after in Crysis. Physics, AI, sound, etc...... and tonnes of it compared to other games!

I don't care if your GTS is overclocked or not, 320MB's isn't enough RAM to run Crysis on VERY HIGH like SaneSam can. Sure overclocking does make a difference but it WILL NOT substitute for a lack of RAM. I don't care what anyone says.

If you don't credit what EA says about the system requirements, and if you think the amount of RAM being used isn't a factor because you overclocked everything, then pull out a stick DDR500 and run Crysis with 1Gb. Your computer will jump up and b1tch slap you if you click on that Crysis icon lol.